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You're one of the few people who actually mentioned Garth's backhanded 'compliment' to Sam in 9.12. Could you discuss it a bit? It really infuriated me. Garth genuinely compliments Dean and then basically says Sam should feel terrible about himself because he's done bad things. And Charlie's line in 8.20, she thanks DEAN for stopping the apocalypse (What books has she been reading?) and then brings up bad memories for Sam about how nearly all the women he's loved or been with have died. Urgh
So Garth’s backhanded complement in “Sharp Teeth,” for those who missed it, was this: when Garth was introducing Sam and Dean to his new werewolf family he said about Sam, “Sam can be a bit insecure at times, but for good reason. Bless his heart.”
I’d like for you to imagine being introduced that way. Imagine everything Sam’s done, everything Sam’s been through, everything Sam’s tried to do and failed, everything Sam’s tried to do and succeeded at and that no one will ever know about. And that’s how your entire existence is summed up to a stranger: you can be a little insecure at times, but it’s okay - you should be. You have no right to be secure in yourself. You’re a screw up. There’s no mention of any of the good that Sam’s ever done. Only that Sam has good reason for being insecure. That’s the only thing that Garth could have meant by that line.
And yes - Charlie does thank Dean for stopping the Apocalypse in “Pac Man Fever,” while rubbing Sam’s nose in the unpleasant fate that has met his romantic interests. There’s no acknowledgement of Sam’s role in stopping the Apocalypse at all, even though it was Sam’s sacrifice and suffering that actually caused it to end. Yes, Dean got beat up. Sam’s still the one who had to jump into the hole, Sam’s still the one who had to face eternity with two archangels, Sam’s still the one who is still facing the fallout. But there’s no acknowledgment of this fact, not even a glimmer of recognition.
Charlie is getting her information from the Supernatural books by Carver Edlund, which is apparently still available (from a magical place she calls Amazon.) When Tracy Bell lashed out at Sam for starting the Apocalypse she got her information from a demon, but apparently never got information about Sam having stopped the Apocalypse too. Evidently whatever hunter information network is still in place didn’t get the memo out or hunters just don’t care, because Garth doesn’t seem to take that information into account when bringing Sam’s “insecurities” up in front of strangers like he’s some kind of psychological test case.
Of course, Dean could have intervened in all three cases to defend Sam - only one came after the breach over Gadreel. He chose not to.
I really need to let all that shit about John go, and I can’t. I just can’t.
John Winchester was a child abuser. John Winchester was a child abuser.
And I know people sometimes don’t acknowledge this because of a lack of information on abuse, and that’s no one’s fault, and…
Can I ask a question? Outside of any fandom universe, if a single parent worked very long hours and could not afford daycare or a caretaker for their children while they were away, could they be cited for child neglect?
"Just checking: in the real world, would driving your kids out into the middle of the woods and dropping them off alone for eighteen hours a day be a bad thing? Because I’m just not sure. This is a hard one."
defilerwyrm said: I MISSED IT TOO I’M MAD
ITS OKAY TOM YOU CAN SOME SIT WITH ME IN THE “MISSED THE BUTT TOUCHING PARTY” CORNER TOGETHER.
Also apparently Dean touched a butt.
A dude’s butt.
And I missed it.
I require multiple gifs of this to make up for it pronto.
could they BE more obvious about this though
but this right here
this is the narrative making Sam’s side of the Gadreel situation more clear and sympathetic
the thing to watch for is how & if they reconcile, ‘cause that’s gonna inform on the Winchesters’ eventual resolution
SPOILER ALERT: IT’S THE ONE WHO FUCKED UP OWNING UP TO IT AND MAKING POSITIVE CHANGES
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